Kia e-Soul en recharge sur le réseau MobiVE

MobiVE: 150 euros per recharge, the equivalent of a full tank at 5 euros per liter of diesel!

Kia e-Soul charging on the MobiVE network

During a week in an area covered by the MobiVE charging network, I noticed prohibitive, discriminatory and staggering prices with terminals that were not always up to date. Strong the tariff shield announced by Emmanuel Macron! Ticket.

Meet passionate electromobilists

Fast charging is said to be very expensive, especially on the road. So what will you think of the price of access to the MobiVE network while roaming? On Saturday October 8, 2022, the crews of the eco-driving rally organized by the Automobile Club du Sud-Ouest are due to meet at Quai Souchet in Libourne.

I am very happy to join them, especially since I have some good comrades and friends among the participants and I already have some ideas for interviews on the site. Therefore, I park my Kia e-Soul at an available terminal, the one on Cours Tourny, about a kilometer to the right of the meeting place.

I know it will be difficult for me to come and unplug my car, but it is thirsty for energy and I am SPF (no fixed plug) for 7 days. I have read the price list, but I keep taking out my Chargemap Pass. Roaming, which allows you to limit subscriptions, badges and applications, is for me an important right for the benefit of electromobilists. It is this same principle that now makes it possible to reach, for example, an SFR user from an Orange subscription, at no additional cost and without the need to synchronize. Otherwise, the 2 interlocutors must each have the card of the same operator to talk to each other.

0.099 euros taxes included per minute

Curiosity: MobiVE invoices the load per minute in its 22 kW AC terminals. Under the condition of paying an annual fee of 18 euros, a subscriber will pay 0.022, 0.044 or 0.066 euros per minute, including taxes, depending on the range in which the flow power falls: 0-5 kW, 5-15 kW and 15 – 22kW. This category of users benefits from a maximum amount of 30 euros including taxes and a 50% discount in the period from 11:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. the following day.

When using a bank card, the prices per minute go up to 0.033, 0.066 or 0.099 euros per minute respectively. Also increase in the maximum amount of the invoice: 50 euros taxes included. But at least there is one. On the other hand, disappearance of the preferential rate at night.

MobiVE rate in autumn 2022

Roaming users are clearly not welcome. Regardless of the recharging power and times, it is 0.099 euros, taxes included, per minute, not including the operator’s commission. And no billing limit. Would it be normal to pay four times more for bread in a bakery under the pretext of not having a loyalty card or living in another region?

The alternating current of 22 kW is not generalized to all electric vehicles

The Kia e-Soul comes standard with a 7.4 kW AC charger. It is not the only one: many electric cars are in this case. It’s not just the Renault Zoé (22 kW AC) as an electric car to drive in France. Also, there were none at the ACSO rally.

How many of the 21 cars entered in the event accept 22 kW? Even in the Diamond, now, is the 7.4 kW. Thus in the Standard Charge and Super Charge versions of the new Mégane E-Tech, the former also avoiding DC stations.

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It takes over 10 hours to fully charge an empty 64 kWh battery with a 7.4 kW integrated charger on a 22 kW MobiVE AC charger. Especially since the actual flow rate will hardly exceed 6-6.5 kW. Worse yet, if another car plugs into the other T2 socket on the same terminal, the power is divided by 2.

Therefore, it would take around 22 hours of connection in these conditions. And this, regardless of the power of the charger of the second vehicle. I was able to see it live, remotely following the progress of the operation with the smartphone app: more than 65 minutes before the shutdown, then 110 minutes about a quarter of an hour later. A second electric vehicle had just been plugged in.

Much more expensive than an Ionity highway station

Let’s calculate: 22 hours, that’s 1,320 minutes, multiplied by 0.099 euros, that’s 130.68 euros! These 130.68 euros are without the commission received by the mobility operator for roaming. With Chargemap we go to 0.110 euros per minute, which gives a total bill including taxes of 145.20 euros, for approximately 22 hours of immobilization.

For comparison, finding 60 kWh at an Ionity motorway station would cost, including the Chargemap fee, 60 x 0.752, or €45.12. One hundred euros saved by being immobilized 20 hours less! And even just 26.16 euros (60 x 0.436) using the 50 kW DC/43 kW AC tri-standard terminal. In this case, and reasoning a bit from the absurd, a slow charge on MobiVE can cost 5.5 times more than a fast Ionity charge!

Kia e-Soul charging on Ionity

In the Breton department where I live, and even playing the roaming card, the 60 kWh would have been billed at 16.17 euros. In detail: 15.06 euros (60 x 0.251) to which 1.109 euros would be added for the fixed part. That is 9 times less than in Libourne. Inevitably, an itinerant electromobilista will have the feeling of being taken by a pigeon and notice these more than 130 additional euros.

Faulty fast terminal…

When I stay in the region, more specifically near the Genétouze circuit, I usually use Saint-Aigulin’s 50 kW DC/43 kW AC tri-standard charging station, which also depends on MobiVE. With an average power of 20 kW, and therefore 180 minutes of connection, it would have cost me 49.86 euros (180 x 0.277).

I use the conditional, because this terminal has a touch screen out of service since the end of July 2022. And this is not the first time, as evidenced by a comment posted last April on the Chargemap site by a user: “ Failed to load… Bad hardware… Touch screen again, unable to initiate a load. It is very serious, as I said, it is the only one for miles. Even Libourne doesn’t have a CCS charge “.

I had read these comments, but went to see on the spot. I first felt a sense of relief when I read on the screen: ” The terminal is back in service “.

… as I have seen

Well no, exactly! The touch screen still didn’t work when I visited Saint-Aigulin on Thursday 13th October 2022. I called the support who responded after about ten minutes. The online agent could have unlocked the recharge if I gave him an RFID number, but not the CMP.

Again the conditional, because there is no RFID number on my Chargemap Pass. Solution recommended by my interlocutor: first call support to get the code, then again to MobiVE to activate the recharge. This last wireless call would probably have to be repeated to stop the operation.

Kia e-Soul charging on the MobiVE network

In total, how much time wasted on the phone to finally come out with a recharged battery: 30 minutes? Four. Five? Further away ? Not to mention the effective refueling time. But damn, change this screen, if you really want to be credible in a process of supporting the development of electric mobility!

Note that, as we advise in Automobile Propre, I never charge 100% in a direct current terminal.

It is like a liter of diesel at 5.18 euros

By the way, how much is 145.20 euros for a 100 km recharge? If we keep 400 km of autonomy with the Kia e-Soul, which makes calculations much easier, that gives 36.30 euros. For comparison, with a diesel version of the same model at an earlier time, users report an average consumption of about 7 liters of diesel per 100 km.

How much would this fuel cost per unit for 7 to 36.30 euros? Answer: 5.18 euros. Specifically, maintaining billing per minute, in certain cases, using a 22 kW AC terminal on the MobiVE network would be equivalent to paying 5.18 euros per liter of diesel. Is it just me who is surprised by this!?

Look, according to La Dépêche, a pensioner paid 120 euros for just over 15 liters of gasoline at a supermarket service station north of Toulouse. Or 7.77 euros per liter. In this case, the electric would keep its advantage in use! It is true that the energy market is under pressure, but please, MobiVE, review your rates and switch to kilowatt-hour billing.

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Who wants to drive electric at these prices?

Specifically, my car did not spend 22 hours on the Cours Tourny in Libourne on October 8, 2022, but, rounding it off, it was plugged in for 275 minutes, for 20 kWh delivered and an actual roaming bill of 30 euros. For a consumption of 15 kWh/100 km, it still gives the 100 kilometers at 22.50 euros. And therefore, in equivalence, a liter of diesel at 3.21 euros.

bill of cargo map

Less heavy figures, of course, but only because the second car only connected to the same terminal quite late. Otherwise, we would really be there, at 36 euros per 100 km. At these prices, who wants to drive electric today?

In the end, some of my weekly trips were made with an old Citroën Berlingo diesel! A pity for me, who has been driving electric for 15 years and who has already moved twice to reduce my trips, thinking of contributing to the fight against climate change.

tariff shield

In an interview with Les Echos, Emmanuel Macron said of the cargo in France: “ Today the prices are still reasonable, we will make sure they stay that way. “. At 145 euros full of electrons to travel 400 kilometers, we are not being reasonable.

If the services of the President of the Republic could take a look here… and if necessary contact us for any details.

Just before, he had promised: “Since As of January 2023, we are also going to extend the tariff shield to electrical terminals, to avoid adventures like some of our neighbors “. We provide in this article an example that proves the merits of such a measure. Hoping that MobiVE reworks its copy before this deadline.

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